The UK Census (2001/04/06)

The UK Census

Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/04/06 11:25

The New Zealanders had a national census recently, and (roughly) this
email went around, Now, apparently, we in the UK have a Census of our
own coming up soon - some people have started to recieve the forms.
Shall we try the same trick?

As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the
7th. For those who don't know, a census is where the government
collates general information about its residents (number of people
living in your house, religion, etc)

If there are enough people, who put down a religion that isn't
mentioned on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and legal
religion. It usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the same
religion.

It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does
not have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion.

Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on
their census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi
religion then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'.

So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old.... Do it
because you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy
people.

"May the Force be with you!"

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Posted by Andy W. on 2001/04/06 11:45

The New Zealanders had a national census recently, and (roughly) this
email went around, Now, apparently, we in the UK have a Census of our
own coming up soon - some people have started to recieve the forms.
Shall we try the same trick?

Thought you might like to know that making a false declaration on a Census
form is illegal. Still, its tempting... :-)

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Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/04/06 12:35

Andrew Wren wrote:

Thought you might like to know that making a false declaration on a Census
form is illegal. Still, its tempting... :-)

Having not seen the form yet, I'm not sure what the options are, but I
know I couldn't tick any of the usual boxes, not even "Athiest" or
"Agnostic". I think "Jedi" is no more a "false declaration" than
anything else.

Besides... In the seriously unlikely event that they come around to
arrest you, just do the jedi-mind trick on them - "There is no problem
with this census" :-)

... and if even THAT doesn't work, accuse them of religious persecution!
You're allowed to believe in the jedi religion if you want!

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Posted by Rey Blewitt on 2001/04/06 13:23

Defining your religion as Jedi would not be illegal, after all who can
define a real religion, If I define myself as Jedi it is no less valid than
defining myself as other more common religions out there. It is the self
definition of a person that makes that definition valid. European Human
rights legislation has enshrined that in Law already due to cases brought by
some non Christian "Pagan" groups (I think "witches" was and Aesir were two
examples to have set the precedents) as they believed that national
legislation was not protecting there freedom of religion. Also I might find
very little credibility in Scientology but that does not mean I do not
except it as a religion. No government in Europe is allowed to stop anyone
defining their religion for themselves.
A friend of mine is a part of a religion that has taken elements from
many other religion to create a religion that has many gods governing the
world by committee, it might be Woden as Chair of the committee one year,
Buddha the next (Her Example) then Vishnu then another from the pantheon
(Seems credible in my opinion, though I have problems with the idea of the
existence of god(s), and the ability of man to understand their essence
though, I do not know if I could choose a religion without that knowledge).
In this country there are thousands of religions already existing, they
could never check them all out to make value judgements anyhow.

Roy Blewitt
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Andrew Wren wrote:

Thought you might like to know that making a false declaration on a

Census

form is illegal. Still, its tempting... :-)

Having not seen the form yet, I'm not sure what the options are, but I
know I couldn't tick any of the usual boxes, not even "Athiest" or
"Agnostic". I think "Jedi" is no more a "false declaration" than
anything else.

Besides... In the seriously unlikely event that they come around to
arrest you, just do the jedi-mind trick on them - "There is no problem
with this census" :-)

... and if even THAT doesn't work, accuse them of religious persecution!
You're allowed to believe in the jedi religion if you want!

--
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Posted by Dominic T. on 2001/04/06 16:29

Also I might find
very little credibility in Scientology but that does not mean I do not
except it as a religion. No government in Europe is allowed
to stop anyone defining their religion for themselves.

Well worded. I believe the US refuse to acknowledge Scientology as a
"religeon" - largely for tax purposes I think.

The interesting question is whether the New Zealand plan worked or not. I've
not heard of a similar law about needing a minimum number of people in the
UK, but if it exists in NZ, it's going to be hard for people here to deny
it.

Dominic

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Posted by Jon E. on 2001/04/09 10:30

I think jedi is over rated i'm going to be a sith lord

Jon Evans
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Also I might find
very little credibility in Scientology but that does not mean I do not
except it as a religion. No government in Europe is allowed
to stop anyone defining their religion for themselves.

Well worded. I believe the US refuse to acknowledge Scientology as a
"religeon" - largely for tax purposes I think.

The interesting question is whether the New Zealand plan worked or not.

I've

not heard of a similar law about needing a minimum number of people in the
UK, but if it exists in NZ, it's going to be hard for people here to deny
it.

Dominic

This communication is intended solely for the addressee and is

confidential

and not for third party unauthorised distribution.

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Posted by Thomas M. on 2001/04/15 23:28

Count me in too. I got a sabre stick and all (ok, its just a stick). And remember folks, you
cannot image the power of the dark side.
Thomas.

---
Thomas "B*sith, B*very sith" Martin.
"The difference between sentiment and sentimentality is easy
to see. When you avoid killing somebody's pet on the read,
that's sentiment. If you swerve to avoid the pet and that causes
you to kill pedestrians, that is sentimentality."
Mentat teachings, Chapter House Dune, Frank Herbert.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:30:13
Jonny wrote:

I think jedi is over rated i'm going to be a sith lord

Jon Evans

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Posted by Philip Ayres on 2001/04/17 16:55

Count me in too. I got a sabre stick and all (ok, its just a stick). And remember folks,

you

cannot image the power of the dark side.

And if anyone's still short of a lightsabre www.thetoyshop.com has the Obi Wan Blue
Electronic ones in stock.

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