B5: Crusade (2000/07/08)

B5: Crusade

Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/08 09:31

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on Sunday
night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

Philip - who's Godzilla DVDs have arrived without interference from customs.
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B5: Crusade

Posted by Andy W. on 2000/07/08 13:03

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on Sunday
night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

Just spotted that myself. Good to see that Channel 4 are giving the series a
fair go by launching it completely unannounced at some ungodly hour.

Videoplus codes (because I'm not staying up for it) are:

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

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B5: Crusade

Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/08 17:47

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on Sunday
night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

Just spotted that myself. Good to see that Channel 4 are giving the series

fair go by launching it completely unannounced at some ungodly hour.

Videoplus codes (because I'm not staying up for it) are:

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Neither of these is either of the first episodes.....

Memory of War is quite good as I remember - cool Galen episode.

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Posted by Andy W. on 2000/07/08 20:11

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Neither of these is either of the first episodes.....

Memory of War is quite good as I remember - cool Galen episode.

So if I tape them I will get them in the wrong order. Great. Pehaps I should
just buy them.

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Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/09 00:25

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Neither of these is either of the first episodes.....

Memory of War is quite good as I remember - cool Galen episode.

So if I tape them I will get them in the wrong order. Great. Pehaps I

should

just buy them.

You're onto a loser here - there's no right order without some more episodes
being made. The order they were aired in has certain continuity flaws
thanks to TNT pulling the plug at the wrong moment. There's a costume
change at one point - all the episodes with the dark uniforms must be shown
before the eps with the grey ones. The next ep due to be made would have
reintroed the dark ones, allowed some of the dark eps to be shown after this
and made certain plot elements more logical - and I think we're talking what
happens at the end of The Memory of War here.....

(Sorry - didn't make much sense but it's late and I've just got back from a
rather good meal. Watch the ep and see)

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Posted by Andy W. on 2000/07/11 18:38

Well my Radio times clearly said that the episodes would be 'The Needs of
Earth' and 'The Memory of War', I somehow managed to tape 'War Zone' and
'The Long Road'.

'War Zone' was a good one, and 'The Long Road' had its moments (when Edaward
Woodward was around). It wasn't as bad as I expected.

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Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/11 19:37

Well my Radio times clearly said that the episodes would be
'The Needs of Earth' and 'The Memory of War',
I somehow managed to tape 'War Zone' and
'The Long Road'.

'War Zone' was a good one, and 'The Long Road'
had its moments (when Edaward
Woodward was around). It wasn't as bad as I expected.

War Zone and Long Road *ARE* the first 2 episodes in the official running
order. So C4 haven't cocked it up......

Though the proper running order ain't right either as I explained yesterday.
B5 has also got it's flaws - Knives should be before In The Shadow of
Z'Ha'Dum, Long Twilight Struggle before Divided Loyalties and Walkabout
after Interludes and Examinations - though whether this should be before or
after War Without End and Grey 17 is missing ....

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B5: Crusade

Posted by Nick Waterman on 2000/07/11 17:37

Andrew Wren said:

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on Sunday
night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Can I borrow a tape off someone, please? I missed 'em.

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B5: Crusade

Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/11 17:48

Nickwa said:

Andrew Wren said:

payres said:

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on

Sunday

night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Can I borrow a tape off someone, please? I missed 'em.

Got the lot on proper - will bring them down for you sometime.

Any idea if it were on _before_ this week ?

Philip - who doesn't recommend attempting to dismantle your hi fi late at
night. I've got to replace my 5 Docs DVD - the disc got dented - and my
VCR - which is playing back in b&w with severe snowstorm. Any ideas -
apart from a 2nd "delicate technical adjustment" ?

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Posted by Simon Richardson on 2000/07/11 18:40

In article <001901bfeb57$e894a100$cee82ac2@>, "Philip Ayres" <payres@> wrote:

Nickwa said:

Andrew Wren said:

payres said:

According to my TV Guide there are 2 episodes of Crusade on C4 on

Sunday

night at 2.15 Time to judge for yourselves....

4696774 'The Needs of Earth' ; 2:15 - 3:05
1889229 'The Memory of War' ; 3:05 - 3:55

Can I borrow a tape off someone, please? I missed 'em.

There are two possibilities.

If you are lucky, the bang magnetised the heads, and a quick once-over with
a degausser will fix it.

More likely, the heads have been damaged/misaligned, and it's going to be
harder (spelt e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e) to fix.

Sorry.

Simon

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B5: Crusade

Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/11 19:39

Philip - who doesn't recommend attempting to dismantle your hi fi late

night. I've got to replace my 5 Docs DVD - the disc got dented - and

VCR - which is playing back in b&w with severe snowstorm. Any ideas -
apart from a 2nd "delicate technical adjustment" ?

There are two possibilities.

If you are lucky, the bang magnetised the heads, and a quick once-over

with

a degausser will fix it.

More likely, the heads have been damaged/misaligned, and it's going to be
harder (spelt e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e) to fix.

Believe it or not the simple act of removing the casing solved the problem
.... Took the case off and the picture came back - happy :-)

BTW - any other Outlook users out there ? Does your copy interpret Simon's
mails to chat as a newspost like mine does ?

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Posted by Andy W. on 2000/07/11 19:39

BTW - any other Outlook users out there ? Does your copy interpret

Simon's

mails to chat as a newspost like mine does ?

Yes, and I've long given up trying to figure out why.

Andy

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Posted by Simon Richardson on 2000/07/11 20:41

In article <001001bfeb67$65fcfa20$6700a8c0@>, "Andrew Wren" <andy@> wrote:

BTW - any other Outlook users out there ? Does your copy interpret
Simon's mails to chat as a newspost like mine does ?

Yes, and I've long given up trying to figure out why.

I can tell you why.

I read IFIS Chat as news, using a Usenet newsreader. This is because Usenet
software is good at handling many simultaneous conversations. IFIS mail
arrives here, and is loaded onto our local NNTP server. Since IFIS mail
exceeds the rate of some of the Usenet newsgroups I read, this is probably a
good thing.

When I reply, a remailer built into the back of the server says "oh, this
should be mailed to a gateway" - in this case, back to the IFIS list server.
But Outlook doesn't do things in standard ways - so it interprets the
newsgroup headers in my messages as meaning that they are news articles,
even though they arrived by E-mail.

Hurrah for Microsoft standardisation!

Let me leave you with my alternative .sig:-

Simon

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B5: Crusade

Posted by Philip Ayres on 2000/07/11 23:03

BTW - any other Outlook users out there ? Does your copy interpret
Simon's mails to chat as a newspost like mine does ?

Yes, and I've long given up trying to figure out why.

I can tell you why.

[snip]

Thanks - I'd been wondering why for some while....

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Posted by Asan Tu on 2000/07/11 23:08

Not on this end, they look like normal e-mails to me

*outlook 2000*

:o)

BTW - any other Outlook users out there ? Does your copy interpret

Simon's

mails to chat as a newspost like mine does ?

Yes, and I've long given up trying to figure out why.

Andy