This Weeks Film : 2001 (2001/01/09)

This Weeks Film : 2001

Posted by Asan Tu on 2001/01/09 13:53

This week's film is 2001 : A Space Odyssey
I think the film pretty much speaks for itself (well, the computer certainly
does)

7:30pm (NOTE THE NEW TIME) Main Lecture Theatre, Thursday 11th January 2001

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Posted by Philip Ayres on 2001/01/09 14:33

This week's film is 2001 : A Space Odyssey I think the film
pretty much speaks for itself (well, the computer certainly does)

Anyone know when the planned cinematic rerelease and DVD release are due ?

Or what HAL stands for ;-)

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Posted by Andy W. on 2001/01/09 15:06

This week's film is 2001 : A Space Odyssey I think the film
pretty much speaks for itself (well, the computer certainly does)

About time. I spent 3 years trying to get this film shown and all we gt was
I know what you did last summer...

Anyone know when the planned cinematic rerelease and DVD release are due ?

No :-)

Or what HAL stands for ;-)

Yes ;-)

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This Weeks Film : 2001

Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/01/09 15:41

Asan Tu wrote:

This week's film is 2001 : A Space Odyssey
I think the film pretty much speaks for itself (well, the computer certainly
does)

Glad the measurements are correct (or at least "to scale") on the
posters.

Can't help wondering how many people are going to recognise that this is
a poster for 2001 though, or even know whether it's for a film, or what.
Basically, you need to know exactly what it's about to know exactly what
it's about, if you see what I mean.

Might I suggest that posters actually mention the (full) name of the
film on them? How many people are going to miss this showing, and then
go to the Cult film Soc's showing when they advertise it with "2001 - A
Space Odyssey" on the posters?

7:30pm (NOTE THE NEW TIME) Main Lecture Theatre, Thursday 11th January 2001

Yikes... so it won't be finished until at least ten-ish either. Where
did our pub-meet go?

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Posted by Asan Tu on 2001/01/09 17:21

Glad the measurements are correct (or at least "to scale") on the
posters.

Well, I thought an 11 1/4 foot by 5 foot poster would have been a bit over
the top...

Can't help wondering how many people are going to recognise that this is
a poster for 2001 though, or even know whether it's for a film, or what.
Basically, you need to know exactly what it's about to know exactly what
it's about, if you see what I mean.

Clearly I have overestimated the intelligence of the student population (ok,
I was probably asking for that one). The necessary admendments will be made.

7:30pm (NOTE THE NEW TIME) Main Lecture Theatre, Thursday 11th

January 2001

Yikes... so it won't be finished until at least ten-ish either. Where
did our pub-meet go?

I have been informed that due to it's unusual length, this week's film will
now start at 7pm. However, future films will quite likely be 7:30 onwards,
due to College Lectures preceding us. Not much we can do about that :(

This Weeks Film : 2001

Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/01/10 10:19

Asan tu wrote:

I have been informed that due to it's unusual length, this week's film will
now start at 7pm. However, future films will quite likely be 7:30 onwards,
due to College Lectures preceding us. Not much we can do about that :(

I thought the decision was that MOST films will continue to start at
7pm, with just a few moved to 7:30pm due to lecture clashes?

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Posted by Alex Jackson on 2001/01/10 10:38

--- Nick Waterman <nick-sony@> wrote: >
Asan tu wrote:

I have been informed that due to it's unusual

length, this week's film will

now start at 7pm. However, future films will quite

likely be 7:30 onwards,

due to College Lectures preceding us. Not much we

can do about that :(

I thought the decision was that MOST films will
continue to start at
7pm, with just a few moved to 7:30pm due to lecture
clashes?

yes but there are lecture clashes for about half of
our film nights this term. Bum!

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Posted by Ron W. on 2001/01/10 13:36

Can't help wondering how many people are going to recognise that this is
a poster for 2001 though, or even know whether it's for a film, or what.
Basically, you need to know exactly what it's about to know exactly what
it's about, if you see what I mean.

I walked past the poster several times, before even realising that
is was a poster for the film. When I did, I then thought it was a printing
error, before finally making the connection between IFIS and the current
year. It's a clever poster, but hardly one everyday passers-by will look at
and say "Hmmm, they're showing 2001, I might go to that."

Sorry Asan, but this isn't on a par with, for example, the posters
for X-men.

Also, Adrian (I will probably be shouted down for this), but doesn't
HAL simply stand for Heuristic ALgorithm? I didn't think Logic came into it.

This Weeks Film : 2001

Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/01/10 13:48

Wingrove RJ wrote:

Also, Adrian (I will probably be shouted down for this), but doesn't
HAL simply stand for Heuristic ALgorithm? I didn't think Logic came into it.

This has been in the IFIS quiz (hmmmm... haven't had one for a while,
have we?) time after time, and as far as I can tell, NOBODY has got it
right.

My first quiz, I got given that question, and didn't have the foggiest
idea. I was told "Heuristic ALgorythm".

Another year, another quiz, I got the question again, and thought "HAHA!
I know the answer this time!"... "Heuristic ALgorythm", but apparently
this was WRONG, too wrong for the quizmaster, who insisted it was
"Heuristic ALgorythmic computer", and the "computer", despite not
appearing in the acronym, was apparently important.

Year after year, quiz after quiz (oh god I'm sounding old), this
question has come up, and I've seen SO MANY people get it wrong in so
many ways, even if they've given last year's "correct" answer. I have
reached the conclusion that it's an IFIS joke. The back of the
quiz-master's card probably says "[ALWAYS WRONG! pick one of these
alternative answers randomly. never allow a contestant to get this
answer right!]"

I think the best answer is "It's IBM if you sort of add one to each
letter"

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (you may need to use
| | | a monospaced font to
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ make this look right)

... though this answer is also, of course, WRONG. :-)

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Posted by Philip Ayres on 2001/01/10 14:22

Also, Adrian (I will probably be shouted down for this), but

doesn't

HAL simply stand for Heuristic ALgorithm? I didn't think Logic came into

it.

This has been in the IFIS quiz (hmmmm... haven't had one for a while,
have we?) time after time, and as far as I can tell, NOBODY has got it
right.

This is probably the best explanation of the HAL joke I've ever seen. Well
done. And for those who weren't there I can confirm that that was exactly
how it happened

The actual answer given in Chapter 16 (HAL) of 2001 is Heuristically
programmed ALgorithmic computer

Of course the answer in 2010 may be diffrent....

I think the best answer is "It's IBM if you sort of add one to each
letter"

... and there is something in the 2010 book denying that the IBM thing was
in Arthur's thoughts at the time.

You're right - a quiz is very much in order ....
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Posted by Alex Jackson on 2001/01/10 14:06

--- Wingrove RJ <R.J.Wingrove@> wrote: >

Can't help wondering how many people are going

to recognise that this is

a poster for 2001 though, or even know whether

it's for a film, or what.

Basically, you need to know exactly what it's

about to know exactly what

it's about, if you see what I mean.

I walked past the poster several times, before even
realising that
is was a poster for the film. When I did, I then
thought it was a printing
error, before finally making the connection between
IFIS and the current
year. It's a clever poster, but hardly one everyday
passers-by will look at
and say "Hmmm, they're showing 2001, I might go to
that."

Sorry Asan, but this isn't on a par with, for
example, the posters
for X-men.

No, I got stuck walking past a poster board yesterday
coz it was quite stricking. I stopped to have a look
and a random bloke wandered past and said "its a great
poster isn't it. I must go to that." He then got out
his diary and wrote the time and place in it and
walked off. I was impressed coz I didn't see the meaning.

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Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/01/10 14:41

Alex Whincup wrote:

No, I got stuck walking past a poster board yesterday
coz it was quite stricking. I stopped to have a look
and a random bloke wandered past and said "its a great
poster isn't it. I must go to that." He then got out
his diary and wrote the time and place in it and
walked off. I was impressed coz I didn't see the meaning.

Like I said, I'm impressed that the ratios are correct and everything
(the 2001 monoliths all measure 1x4x9 (1 squared by 2 suqared by 3
squared) at various scales, and they're all very very black). The black
rectangle on the poster is 4x9, plus or minus any negligible printing
error.

... but (again, like I said) you have to know EXACTLY what it's about
to, umm, know what it's all about at all. Certainly, I suspect that
there's an awful lot of people wandering around campus thinking "hmm,
2001, I must see the film sometime - never seen it before but I've been
told it's a classic", and they're not going to have a clue what the
poster means, so aren't going to see it!

Anyway, I think Asan said he'd go around modifying and/or replacing
them. To be honest, that's possibly EVEN BETTER, because it's certainly
a striking poster that'll grab attention, and we've impressed the
experts already, and built up that nagging "what the ####?" curiosity
with everyone else who's seen it. If they now see another poster that's
similar, yet explains everything, they'll think "AHA!", and (as long as
they see the explaination in time) hopefully go and see it. A lot of
successful modern advertising campaigns work like this. Remember
wondering "What the #### are all these orange on black 'orange' posters
all about?" or "what on earth is this 'goldfish' thing anyway?", etc?

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Posted by Mark L. on 2001/01/10 20:47

Brilliant! Turn it into a teaser campaign (to use the technical terminology)
and pretend that was what it was all along!

Nick wrote:

Anyway, I think Asan said he'd go around modifying and/or replacing
them. To be honest, that's possibly EVEN BETTER, because it's certainly
a striking poster that'll grab attention, and we've impressed the
experts already, and built up that nagging "what the ####?" curiosity
with everyone else who's seen it. If they now see another poster that's
similar, yet explains everything, they'll think "AHA!", and (as long as
they see the explaination in time) hopefully go and see it. A lot of
successful modern advertising campaigns work like this. Remember
wondering "What the #### are all these orange on black 'orange' posters
all about?" or "what on earth is this 'goldfish' thing anyway?", etc?

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Alex Whincup wrote:

No, I got stuck walking past a poster board yesterday
coz it was quite stricking. I stopped to have a look
and a random bloke wandered past and said "its a great
poster isn't it. I must go to that." He then got out
his diary and wrote the time and place in it and
walked off. I was impressed coz I didn't see the meaning.

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Posted by Paul Ilsley on 2001/01/10 15:43

Any chance of putting a copy of the poster on the IFIS
website for those of us not around the campus.

Cheers,

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Posted by Nick Waterman on 2001/01/10 15:56

Paul Ilsley wrote:

Any chance of putting a copy of the poster on the IFIS
website for those of us not around the campus.

Shhhhhhhhh! Shush everybody!

Shall we tell 'im?

Oh, ok...

It's already there, and even linked to from the front page. Did you
look? :-)

www.ifis.org.uk/social/gallery/poster.2001.jpg

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Posted by Paul Ilsley on 2001/01/10 16:23

It's already there, and even linked to from the
front page. Did you
look? :-)

No, that would be far too sensible.

Cool poster.

Cheers,

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Posted by Adrian Long on 2001/01/10 14:27

Next time I go home I'll dig up both the book and Lost Worlds of 2001, both
of which I'm pretty sure state that it stands for Heuristic Algorithm Logic.
Which I remember so clearly simply because it's an acronym that makes no
sense - Heuristic Algorithm Logic on it's own doesn't mean very much at
all...

Adrian, etc...

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Wingrove RJ wrote:

Also, Adrian (I will probably be shouted down for this), but

doesn't

HAL simply stand for Heuristic ALgorithm? I didn't think Logic came into

it.

This has been in the IFIS quiz (hmmmm... haven't had one for a while,
have we?) time after time, and as far as I can tell, NOBODY has got it
right.

My first quiz, I got given that question, and didn't have the foggiest
idea. I was told "Heuristic ALgorythm".

Another year, another quiz, I got the question again, and thought "HAHA!
I know the answer this time!"... "Heuristic ALgorythm", but apparently
this was WRONG, too wrong for the quizmaster, who insisted it was
"Heuristic ALgorythmic computer", and the "computer", despite not
appearing in the acronym, was apparently important.

Year after year, quiz after quiz (oh god I'm sounding old), this
question has come up, and I've seen SO MANY people get it wrong in so
many ways, even if they've given last year's "correct" answer. I have
reached the conclusion that it's an IFIS joke. The back of the
quiz-master's card probably says "[ALWAYS WRONG! pick one of these
alternative answers randomly. never allow a contestant to get this
answer right!]"

I think the best answer is "It's IBM if you sort of add one to each
letter"

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (you may need to use
| | | a monospaced font to
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ make this look right)

... though this answer is also, of course, WRONG. :-)

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Posted by Lizz Jennings on 2001/01/09 16:29

7:30pm (NOTE THE NEW TIME) Main Lecture Theatre, Thursday 11th January 2001

Are pillows and bedding provided? this film is just guaranteed to send me to
sleep (in the nicest possible way - like dark city, very mellow and sleepy)

So now the choice - beer or sleep...

Love,
Lizz

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