my "spoiler"

Grrr. That's the last time I use a "." on its own to pad out my spoiler space.
Someone's got a naff implementation of SMTP somewhere.

Anyway - before crap software rudely truncated my message, I was about to
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I got the impression that Ben had made a conscious decision just prior to the
moment of death to do his fading trick. I assumed it was an unusual, if not
hitherto unknown phenomena.

The fact that Yoda did it as well seemed a tad sentimental to me, but I guess
you can always say that since he was more advanced than Kenobi, it's fair
enough.

Any additional characters from books, comics, toys, T-shirts or pencil cases
don't really merit worrying about.

Incidentally, I'd be inclined to see that final battle between Kenobi and Maul
as a nudge towards the Dark Side for Kenobi, which can be used to demonstrate
his immaturity, and gross unsuitability for training the Son Of God.(*)

Maul was plainly able to hold his own against TWO Jedi Knights. It wasn't until
Kenobi saw his mentor butchered that he started to fight a little better. I'd
say he was hopping mad, and the dark side was flowing.

(*) It's not just me, is it?
This metachlorian (sic?) bollocks reminds me horribly of Highlander 2, which
also attempted to rationalise a perfectly simple metaphysical manifestation by
claiming it was all down to alien beings.

Microscopic aliens, virgin births, ancient prophecies? I can't believe this was
in his original plot, and I'm very worried about where it could lead. It's
like a dreadful cross between L Ron Hubbard and David Eddings.


Dominic.

"What I really hate, is people I don't like, trying to be nice to me."

Dominic Thomas said:
Seems to work fine here. See if it's something on the way here or the
way back...

If this is the end of this message, it is something on the way back
from IFIS to YOU

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unless you can read this, in which case it was something on the way
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probably....

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In article <199907291150.MAA16048@>, "Dominic Thomas" <dthomas@> wrote:
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Well, he did seem to blame himself in the first (fourth) film, so I'd say it
was consistent. He didn't want to train Luke, and in the end he didn't - he
deliberately dropped out of the picture, and sent him on to Yoda.
Which was one of the first problems I felt with tESB and with RotJ. It
doesn't seem right to me (and doesn't seem in keeping with any mysticism or
theology not actually rooted in the late Twentieth Century) that anger is
never a positive force. Sometimes being angry is the only way to go -
witness, if you like your mysticism Christian, the business with Christ and
the moneychangers in the Temple. (Non-Christian examples available on
request.)

Like you I'd say that he was hopping mad - but with enough training and the
right philosophy backing it, that should be a powerful force for smiting
evil Sith.

Without becoming one.
No.
It's actually worse than that, because you're still left with two questions:

1) If all life is infested with Metachlorians, where did the Metachlorians
come from?

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2) if you're trying to avoid unexplained unscientific powers that humans
(and other sophonts) have by postulating Metachlorians, how does one explain
the unexplained unscientific powers of the Metachlorians?
With a chunk of Philip Jose Farmer and a little Jack L Chalker thrown in for
good measure.



Simon

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Midichlorians, I think?

The "Abridged script" that Ads sent us says:

GEORGE LUCAS
Because I just made it up. Speaking of stuff I'm just making up,
how do you like the midichlorian bullshit I pulled out of my ass?

Weird Al's song (http://www.sagabegins.com/lyrics.html) says:

Now we finally got to Coruscant
The Jedi Council we knew would want
To see how good the boy could be
So we took him there and we told the tale
How his midi-chlorians were off the scale
And he might fulfill that prophecy
Oh, the Council was impressed, of course
Could he bring balance to the Force?
They interviewed the kid
Oh, training they forbid
Because Yoda sensed in him much fear
And Qui-Gon said, "Now listen here
Just stick it in your pointy ear
I still will teach this boy"

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Taking about nick-picking...
Who trained Obi Wan? - Yogi as the parts IV to VI keep reminding us or
Quin Qon?????

The capital of the Feberation is straight out of Asimov's Foundation
books (the description
of Trantor fixs very closely).

So Queen Amaida was elected - but she is only 14! who elect a 14 year
old queen to rule?

Daniel

This isn't a spoiler, as far as I can tell....




Daniel Celano said:
You kidding? Groovy hairstyles like that, she's GOT to be mad enough
to rule a place like naboo! She's got my vote! Certainly beats most of
the stuffy boring grey-suited politicians that appeared on my last
voting slip.

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Eyes are vocal, tears have tongues, and there are words not made with lungs.

I don't remember IV and VI saying Yoda trained Ben, although I'm willing to
believe Ben called him his teacher, or something. That's ok. Yoda was a
superior. Yoda was the examiner for his final exam. It counts.
Amidala was queen of a small planet by birthright.
Palpatine was elected to somewhere else entirely, and isn't 14.
Now that's a damn good theory, we've just got to think who it was.

Incidentally - anyone else think it's a bit odd that Anakin could afford to
build droids and speeders in his back garden?
I know he works in a speeder parts shop, but as a slave he's not going to get
much spending money, and there's got to be a limit on how many engine parts a
9-year-old kid can hide in his lunchbox on the way home.

Dominic.

"Today is a good day for sarcasm."

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In Empire Strike Back, Luke told "Go to Yogi, the Jedi master that
trained me" by Obi Wan.
Later Obi Wan says "Wasn't I impatient when you trained me." to Yogi;
and there are
some other comments. All this makes it clear than Yogi was Obi Wan's
teacher.

Queen Amaida was elected, hence the quote "I was not elected to standby
and...".
I heard she was suppose to be 14 (5 years other than Ani else it gets
into serious
cradle shatching).

So not only does Ani build a speeder, but he wants to build something
for his mum.
A washing machine? clearing droids? hair-dyers? No! some thing more
useful - a
protocol droid.

Daniel

No spoilers
Fair enough.
Probably from the Weird Al song.

Maybe only royal family members are eligible for office?
The alternatives could have been much worse.

Consider a voting form that said:-
Princess Eugenie
Prince Harry
The Queen Mum
Bernard the corgi

Dominic.

"I have left orders to be awakened at any time in case of national
emergency, even if I'm in a cabinet meeting." [Ronald Reagan]

Dominic Thomas wrote:
I don't really buy that. Kenobi ran in there all hopping mad
and got his ass kicked. Maul had finished off the real challenge
and just had to deal with the apprentice. He was so confident
that he just disarmed him and kicked him down a hole. He then
proceeded to taunt him by waving his lightsaber over the edge.
He was probably one step away from hocking a lugy on Quin.
It was only after Kenobi had a chance to cool down and focus
that he did the TK trick.

My theory is that Darth Maul was in fact french.
There is a perfectly logical explaination. You'll have to
imagine the hand waving passed the mothers face.

"You wish to sleep with me, you will remember nothing"

See ya,

Adam