Does this answer a REEEEEALLY old IFIS question? Posted by Nick Waterman on 2007/08/26 19:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CxWSCTsTEw "Nosey" Nick Waterman, VE3/G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer; sig@ It's impossible to lose your footing on your knees.