Dr who film was Sci-Fi Dialogue (1998/01/30)

Dr who film was Sci-Fi Dialogue

Posted by Chris L on 1998/01/30 16:39

Just to maintain a sci-fi essence, I think one of the good things about
England is Doctor Who. It makes me proud to be British (or should I say
English?). And the Americans did rather ruin it with their TV movie

Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh... It was the
love interest that ruined it, wasn't it?

That and the 13 lives instead of 12 regenerations, the crap american playing the master (now Alan Rickman, he would have been good), the tardis console, the 1/2 human bit, the tardis ressurecting the annoying kid, the doctor's defocused temporal sense, some medical doctor from earth being able to rewire the tardis, the music, etc...
I liked the bit where the guy on the motorbike rode into the tardis and out again though.

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From: Pringlespanion
Sent: 30 January 1998 15:33
To: 'chat@'
Subject: RE: Sci-Fi Dialogue

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Chilard D wrote:

Since when have us English kept our arrogance at home? You just have to
go to places like Ibiza to hear the familiar strains of "'Ere we gaow,
'ere we gaow" and "Swing low, sweet chaaaariot". And at least Americans

That's hardly jamming our superiority complex down other people's throats,
now is it? More being loud and having a good time, methinks.

are better than us in thinking up reasons why they are "the greatest
nation on Earth" (land of opportunity, huge arsenal of nuclear weapons,
The Constitution etc.)

That's because they really want to be. Unfortunately, America hasn't heard
of the age old saying 'The less one is apt to make declarative statements,
the less one is likely to look foolish in retrospect.' So when they say
how strong their armed forces are, Viet Naam happens. When they say how
free everyone is, the cordon off an area the size of Switzerland and shoot
anyone who goes anywhere near it. And persecute communists. And
when the say how their government has so much integrity, they have
watergate and various suspitious assasinations. America as a nation has
the attitudes of a little child...

whereas we can only think of reasons why other

countries are worse than us (angry Frogs, Krauts beating us in World
Cup, Yankee and Ozzie TV over here, what the Nips did to our soldiers,
how the Darkies are always taking our jobs etc.)*.

That's because we have more sense than the Americans. We have learned that
the more we say 'We're cool because...' the more likely it is that that
will be taken from us.

I'm not saying the Americans are better than us. That's reading between
the lines... I'm just saying I'd rather live over there than live over
here. They can make films like ID4, which I enjoy, whereas England can

The Americans rarely make films that don't follow the hollywood
guidelines: There must be a love interest. The ending should be uplifting
or neutral. The special effects must take precedence over the plot. Etc.
I'm sure you can think of some more. They have money, yes, but they're not
generally as imaginative. They've spent most of their recent past trying
to make their population plastic, and it's happening.

only make sh*te like Four Weddings, which I loathed. Frankly, England's

I actually loved that film. It was expertly crafted, and I think that
anyone can see themselves in at least one character in it. It contained a
wide range of emotions, realistic but comical situations (as opposed to
American over the top situations, which is the only way they can make
things funny nowadays.) and lots of the unexpected.

You see because the American film industry has a formula, there aren't any
surprises any more. Compare this to Trainspotting... Was there a contrived
love interest, was the story horribly warped to make the ending a soft
centered candy, fluffy 'Oh, we all love eachother really' cop out? No.

Pant. Pant.

gone downhill since the war... I mean, we used to be a nice eccentric
nation, but lately we've got to the stage where "it's only okay to act
strange if yer p*ssed!". (Yes, I know FW&F was eccentric, but how many
English people can you name who are as eccentric as Hugh (ugh, spit)
Grant's character when not getting paid and not drunk?) Bring back the
days of the stiff-upper-lip and tea+crumpets at 5 o'clock, misses!

What the hell are you talking about? I think you've been watching too many
black and white films. Talking of strange behaviour, here's the words of
an American student I talked to in the first year.

'I used to paint with my menstrual fluid back home. My friends used to as
well... I thought it was perfectly normal until I came over here. Now I
wonder what the hell I was doing.'

Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh... It was the
love interest that ruined it, wasn't it?

(although it was all right as far as it goes, and Paul McGann's a decent
Doc). But it doesn't make me proud of the Lad culture! (On American
TV, lads aren't worshipped like they are on British TV...)

Worshipped? Taken the piss out of, I think (Men behaving badly) I can't
think of any programmes that put lads on a pedistal....

Still, if you'd rather live in America, get the **** over there. You'll
soon be screaming for home as you hear 'Have a nice day' for the
10,000,000,000,000,000th time.

Puff, puff, puff, gasp.

I deliver enough pizzas to Americans to know a thing or two about their
apparent intelect. (And these are the rich ones who can afford houses the
size of founders) And they are dim, to a man. Or woman. The kids are
smart, though. Must be growing up in England...

I'm sorry. I'm not convinced by your arguments.

Ben.

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