SW: AOTC

Anyone else been to see it ? What did you think ?

INCLUDE SPOILER SPACE !

I'll post my thoughts later on......

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Most of my office! :-)
No particular spoilers:

Anakin's not such an annoying brat any more, but his chat-up-lines are
ridiculously cheesy "pass me bucket" stuff.

JarJar appears, but not enough to really annoy - if you'd NOT seen Ep 1,
you'd probably barely notice him.

Perhaps a bit much sloppy lovey-dovey stuff?

Loads of REALLY cool battles, some brilliant duels, lots of interesting
things slotting into place for Ep 4 - some surprises, some not surprises,
some you'd not bothered even thinking about (the death star bit felt like it
was just thrown in fairly pointlessly).

A few too many new ships, costumes, lightsabre colours, etc - if you're as
cynical as me, your merchandising alarms will be going off. :-)

Well worth seeing. Stunning action, a fair bit of interesting plot
development. Feels a bit short, but so do some of the other SW episodes.
Definitely an improvement on episode 1.







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Yoda's one seriously cool dude!

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There's lots of things about this film that I think contributed to the feeling I
had when I came out of it and there's lots of very nice things in it but I was
left feeling a little underwelmed by it. The film felt very bitty in places
..... lots of set pieces, lots of little chunks.... And by that I mean
little - all the individual confrontations felt very short: Jango Fett vs Obi
Wan, Obi Wan, Anakin & Padme at the Arena, the Jedi vs the Battle droids, Mace
vs Jango Fett - now you know why the Jango Fett figure is called Final Battle,
yes the head is on a magnet ! - Obi Wan and Anakin vs Dooku - Yes the Anakin
hanger dual figure has the removable arm, Yoda vs Dooku. All very good, but all
very short, one after another .... Yes I know the ones at the end fitted into
a much larger battle - and that I loved, thought it was the best thing about the
film, Yoda commanding the clones & the clones in action. Loved the Gunships -
did you spot one dropping the walker ?

I didn't think the issue of Anakin's nightmares was dealt with terribly well -
he'd obviously been having them for a while - listen to his dialog with Padme
afterwards - and yet that's the first time they're mentioned. His attempts at
wooing Padme felt a tad cringeworthy but that's probably the way to do it - most
of us have been there trying to say something and have it all come out wrong.

I'm a little intrigued as to where the Clone's transportation & weaponary came
from - or should I assume the Kaminoans had manufactured that too - the
insinuation was that they'd made the clones but suddenly they've got Gunships,
walkers, and very familiar looking big transport ships.

(And to be *very* picky an R4 has a conical shaped top, an R2 has a round top.)

Mace Windu was excelent - I was giggling right the way through the arena scene
knowing that he was coming and got to say that line to Dooku "The Party's Over".
He seemed to dispatch Jango very quickly - see above about the brief set pieces.

Palpatine - to continue the theme from last time "What a nice man !" ;-)

Yoda - fabulous with the kids "lost a planet has master Kenobi", brilliant
commanding the clones and fantastic fighting Dooku - the moment he reaches under
his robes for his lightsabre a laugh went round the cinema followed by some
ooohs as Yoda gets woopee on Dooku's backside....

Going again Saturday, see what I think after that !

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This is not a spoiler...

I have but one thing to say:

"Judge me by my size, would you?"

I always told you us shorties were cool - now you'd better believe it!

Helen xx

Must start this email by saying that I surely have the most wonderful
friends in the world. It was my birthday yesterday, and some friends and I
went out to Chessington (which was virtually deserted - no queues!). They
made some excuse on the way back to stop off at Staines, allowed me to go
buy dinner in Waitrose, and THEN told me they'd booked tickets for Star Wars
in half an hour! How cool are they?
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A Huge improvement on Episode 1, not that that's hard mind. It felt a bit
plot heavy to me in places, especially as it cut between the Obi wan and
Anakin's mother plots sharply, literally a scene at a time. Two very corny
scenes, "Ani's" mother dying and his confession to Padme made me cringe, but
hey, its Star Wars, you don't expect the dialogue to be good. Felt that
Hayden Christenson overplayed it a little at times, but he does extremely
good sulky-almost-glaring-then-smiling bits, and nice dark flashes of anger,
plus gets brownie points for being v attractive.

Obi Wan manages to look pretty cool despite having what looks suspiciously
like a mullet, and gets some funny lines, but his fight scenes are way too
short. Was also dissapointed by the brevity of Mace Windu's fight with Jango
Fett ( Samuel L. Jackson is definitely the coolest human in the film). But
Mace has a PURPLE lightsabre!

Final comment: Yoda rules!!!

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I agree with everyone who's mentioned the shortness of the individual battles, but the film seemed long enough as it was. Although they could have cut the sound of music crap on the planet out and put a longer
Yoda fight in. The best bit in the entire film for me was just after the fight when he retrieves his stick and goes back to hobling slowly. Patience is a jedi virtue after all.

As for the two lovers. Cringe! Cringe? I need a bluddy bucket!

Ahh lots's of different coloured lightsabers, am I the only one whe thinks a group of people with multicoloured swords looks like it could be part of an opening for a Village People video?

I thought George Lucas was loaded, so why's he gone and pinched Wilma's costume from Buck Rogers and stuck it on Padme, maybe some die hard fans sued him for mental trauma after Phantom Menace.

I have to say I didn't think Ewan made a convincing sounding Jedi Master, although this might be the point and I just missed it, best bits in the film before it all kicks off seemed to be with him when he was away
from Anakin.

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Proctor GD wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't light travel faster than sound when not in space as well?
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It was a nice effect though, and Kenobi's not-likeing-flying doesn't seem to be related to any lack of skill which was a cute touch.
Anyone else wonder that if he really let Vader kill him because he didn't want to get back a ship flown by Han Solo? Sounds plausable to me.

I did like the way Jar Jar Stinks got his just deserts, can't kill him 'cause all the kids will cry so make him go down in history as the one who put the Emperor in control of the known universe. Nice.
Still, the force has a strong effect on the weak minded, "You will throw yourself in the meat grinder now...".

Overall, unquestionably better than the Phatom Menace, it's a lovely eye candy of a film. Perhaps is should have been called Star Wars 2: The Appology, or have I just ripped off a cheap Highlander 3 joke. Bit of a
shame about some of the crap in the first half. Looking forward to a remake of Kung Fu staring Yoda.

Darren
Misserable Git of Bob

I am privaledged to be one of Kathryn's friends. I would like to add that
SHE is the coolest EVER! Im going on hols with her on mon too.
I would also like to say that YODA IS THE BEST CREATURE IN THE UNIVERSE
(apart from Kathryn of course!) smiles and sunshine ;) Pixie x
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Bloody fantastic! Not much of a Star Wars fan am I, but... whoo!

What's wrong with too many ships? That was one of the best things about it!
I love Tyranus's sail-ship thingy at the end, although if it's supposed to
be using something like a solar sail then I think it's technically wrong,
but who cares, it looks bloody cool.

The visuals were stunning, obviously. I loved Coruscant, and the other
locations, whilst not as impressive, were still nicely done. I liked that
cute mouselike monster thingy. But by far the best thing about the film was
Yoda!

'tis the best SW film I've seen so far (not too difficult, as I've only seen
Eps I and 4) and one of the best films I've seen for quite a while.

Oh, and it's good to see that they've realised that light travels faster
than sound in space.

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Proctor GD wrote:
Actually, as we all know, "in space, no-one can hear you scream",
because sound doesn't travel at all in space, but hey, we ARE talking
about big explosions here, which will include stuff smashing into the
ship, which you WILL hear.

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From: Nick Waterman
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Sent: 19/05/2002 09:55
Subject: Re: SW: AOTC

Proctor GD wrote:
faster
I see I need to practice this 'humour' thing :p

George-rah

For goodness sake see ESB asap ! It's the best one by miles.

Saw AOTC again this weekend, loved it this time. Must have been in a really
bad mood last Thursday .....

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I thought ESB never really ended - it felt like it was just getting started,
then it stopped.

OTOH some films are worse at this - Fellowship Of The Ring being an obvious
example. I guess when you KNOW you're making a trilogy, you can get a bit
casual about it.

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I read a review of AOTC last week that said that "nothing really happens in ESB"

I think some of the reason why I like is that it's almost "true to life": the
good guys don't win because they're the good guys. You can argue that ESB is
actually a points decision win for the Empire ! The film looks fabulous too -
it had the least amount of work done to it in the special editions - from the
snow scenes on Hoth to the asteroid chase (which IMO is better than the AOTC
one) to the scenes on Bespin at the end - contrast the pure white corridor walls
of the main parts of the city with the grim and dark carbon freezing chamber....

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