38 Today

Happy Birthday Doctor Who - first broadcast 23/11/1963

I'll be watching Unearthly Child at 5:25 tonight.... and I suspect I won't be the only one
:-)

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Indeed. Hoorah!
Sadly I won't because I don't own it. Maybe I'll watch Survival
instead. Ooh, there's some irony...

Adam

Do you want a copy ?

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gonna see if i can get one on the IFIS shopping trip. why?

Adam

Wow am very excited! I was born on the 23/11/78 and so randomly celebrate
Dr Who every year without realising it.

Lizzie
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Along with all of your friends!! Wow, we had a really great Doctor Who
celebration Friday night. Didn't actually involve Doctor Who though - unless
there was rollerskates, trains and singing in the series and i just don't
know about it.
Kathryn.

Oh there was plenty of singing in Doctor Who eg. Trial for a Time
Lord in which the Doctor treated us to his rendering of "On With the
Motley". Or the Happiness Patrol where he sings "As Time Goes By".

Trains... there was one in The Deadly Assassin wasn't there?

Roller skates.... can't think of any incidences offhand. there
probably were though...

Adam

A quick glance at the program guide reveals you were born between Episode 4 of the Stones
of Blood and Episode 1 of the Androids of Tara. Which is very scary as I can remember
watching both.

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Happy Belated Birthday to you then my Dear.
Ah, Professor Amelia Rumford. Don't you wish she'd gone on to be
one of the Doctor's Assisstants?

Adam

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Date : 26 November 2001 22:34:19
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You'll have to get used to that sort of scariness. There is at least
one among your number where I remember where I was at the exact
moment of your birth. (I was standing around outside school, being
bored, and thinking "this being a teenager doesn't feel any different."
You know who you are.)

The joke runs "where have you been all my life?" - "School, mostly."
But I am younger than Doctor Who. We have only one among our
number who is old enough to remember the first Doctor Who.

Do you want to admit it? Did you see the first episode?



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birth.
being a
I've realised now that I'm older (I believe) than you were when we first
met. Very scary.
Mr P Toms, currently wandering Europe I believe ..... I can say this safely
as he don't get Chat.
Of course I saw it. Last Friday in fact ;-)

An Unearthly Child had a repeat showing in 81. Most of our students are
younger than that. None will now remember Tom Baker as Doctor Who. Some
may not remember new Doctor Who being on TV......

As a question to those following: What's your earliest sci fi memory - both
book or TV - and what (if anything) can you remember of Doctor Who ?

Mine is of seeing the Daleks blow a shed up, and seeing someone trapped in
a tunnel being chased by a sphere. I believe these to be from a Saturday
morning showing of Daleks Invasion of Earth - the film. The first thing I
can remember from the series is the Doctor and K9 in a tunnel. Since I
watched this with my cousins on bonfire night I've calculated that this is
from the Sunmakers.

I've also got an early Trek memory of people being turned into small
multisided structures made of powder and being crushed by a villain.

Book is a little more hazy - but I can recall getting Giant Robot from the
library aged 7...

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My first (rather hazy) memories of Doctor Who involved a forest and some
mines of some description. Adam suggests it was probably Mark of the Rani.
This is odd though, as I was sure it was a Sylvester McCoy one, but mark of
the Rani was Colin Baker. But I do certainly remember Bonnie Langford
having been an assistant, so I almost certainly watched Colin Baker
episodes too and still being completely unable to remember what Peri looks
like (even though I've seen pictures often enough) it wouldn't surprise me
if I forgot which assistant it was. And being 1985 sounds about right as I
would have been about 7.

I don't think I watched any other Sci-fi other than Doctor Who until about
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Yeah... and do you remember what a crony we thought Simon was? We're now the
cronies :-(

... though I'd like to thank Izzy for recently saying I look younger every
time she sees me :-)
I remember The Tomorrow People. Considering it was made when I was ONE, I'm
guessing I saw repeats.

I remember The Adventure Game, if that counts. I was apparently 8. STUNNING
show, and I've realised since that it must have been the inspiration for the
various Crystal Maze / similar games, but WAY better.

I remember Dr Who, with K9, and bonnie langford, but can't remember any
actual specific episodes or anything.

I remember The Black Hole. I was apparently 7.

Books...

I remember the hobbit, but it definitely wasn't new at the time - published
in 1937! I remember buying the 32k ram-pack for my 16k spectrum so I could
play the game, but that was quite a lot later.

I remember Ender's Game. It won a hugo in 1978, when I was 6, but I suspect
I was a fair bit older than that by the time I got around to reading it.
Great book.

Read a fair bit of Clarke and Asimov as a young kid too, but again most of
it was probably way older than me.

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I keep forgetting this.
I remember doing a literal "hide-behind-the-sofa" for a cyberman thing in
caves. Probably Pertwee, certainly in B&W but that might have been the
television.
I remember a Sea Devils in colour, along some sort of metal corridor/floor.
I still have my Tom Baker Dr. Who Annual.

I remember Rentaghost, and The Ghosts of Motley Hall.
There was some sort of kids program about a yound girl and an old witch
called Lizzie Dripping.
I'm
I met the oriental girl from that when she opened our church fete.
Tough call. I mainly used libraries, where the books were old. Van Vogt,
Aldis, etc.
I remember finding "The Colour of Magic" in hardback in my local library,
which was 83/84. My all-time earliest SF may have been a Van Vogt from my
parent's bookshelf.

Who started this doddery-old-reminising thread anyway?
Why have I been sucked into it?
AARRGHH!

Dominic

Ah, that sounds like Revenge of the Cybermen with Tom Baker.
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Kill the Jester!!!!

I've suddenly remembered Simon and the Witch. God i loved that
show!

Adam

Does "Jamie and the Magic Torch" count as Sci Fi / Fantasy? :-)

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If we are comparing rusty old memories...
I remember after "The Brasil Brush Show" watching Dr Who and being
very scare of
people crawling around in green sleeping bags... or even worse (and
earlier)
a close up of a maggot covered in green paint.
But maybe the "The Brasil Brush Show" was scarier.

I also remember rushing home from school to watch Blakes 7, which
was aired very early in the evening
first time round.

Daniel
thing in
the
corridor/floor.

What I find scariest is that you can now buy this on DVD.

Dominic

And I keep correcting you. I knew we'd done this at some pt in the past ....
Revenge of the Cybermen, early Baker.
Me. Again.
For the same reason as last time :-)
Deja Vu.....

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I remember Lizzie Dripping too (that was the nickname of the young girl).
Based on a novel called The Didikoi(sp?) by (I think) Nina Bawden. Why I
should remember that after all these years when I didn't even like the
series is almost as frightening as people just about remembering Star Trek
TNG - I mean that's, like, barely yesterday!

To quote myself from an earlier conversation on this topic
Bookwise, I remember reading LOTR at about nine, and I'm sure I'd already
read The Hobbit. But here's a book/TV thing- I never saw it on the
programme, despite being an avid watcher, but I had a Blue Peter annual
(don't ask me which number, but it was the one that had Lesley Judd in a
nurse's uniform inside... (drifts off for a moment into reverie))and it had
a cartoon of Bleep and Booster. Anyone else remember them?

Mark

didnt know if rentaghost counted
wasnt sure if it was one of my scary hallucinations again(narf).
Also, I AM LIZZIE DRIPPING!! it was my nan's nickname for me and she bought
the book for me for my 10th birthday or something, that and some book abot a
pony that i NEVER read-sorry gran
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I had a really bizarre conversation with some-one the other day who was
convinced that I was lying that I am 23. I had to prove it by the date of
my NUS card. What makes me think isthat she thought being 23 was scarily
old! Help.

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I remember thinking when I thought 23 was old......
Newbie is net slang for someone who's new to something, in this case a new person posting
to this list.

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Oh dear, how scarrily literal your reply was!
More magic, nonsense please
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Worryingly this thread is very nearly a month old......
Ask the Question, get an answer. We're educational here you know....

"When we grew up and went to school......"
OK.... LotR trailers seem to have hit TV, anyone seen one yet ?

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I saw one at on the television during lunch at work yesterday, it looked
great...

Charlotte

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now, just in case I give something away.
Liked the intro to the film, Galadriel in voice over telling the
tale of the ring's creation, up till Bilbo picking it up - I thought it was
a neat way of introducing the mythlology to those who haven't read the book
(grrr grrr).

Also liked Hobbiton, very green and springy. There are (inevitably)
some changes, perhaps the biggest being the timescale of the book - which
exlains why Frodo looks so young, as there is no big gap between the
birthday party and Frodo leaving the shire. Elijah Wood puts in an excellent
performance, as does Ian Mckellen.

Was v, pleased that Sam is as cool in it as he is in the book - he
rules!

The one thing I really didn't like was the fight scene between
Gandalf and Saruman, it was a bit too holywood needing wizards to blast each
other for me. Saruman is also a lot less subtle than in the book - not sure
if i really liked Christopher Lee in the role, as he is so well known as
stereotypically evil villain, and he's not a real big baddie in the book!

What else? - oh yes, Aragorn. He's really quite low key - they focus
on the relationship between him and Arwen (bringing the stuff in the
appendices into the film itself), and she gets a much bigger role than in
the book. But they cut out Aragorn's rhyme!! I'm guessing that this is
becuase they want it to look like character development when he does his
kingly thing in book three (character development, why would Tolkien want
that in his book?!), and we'll just have to see whether some of the things
they glossed over get brought up in the later films.

The ending is very sad! I cried, even though I knew what was coming.
Kathryn.

The cliffhanger to Remembrance of the Daleks part two, Ace
surrounded by 3 Daleks all chanting "EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE!!!"

Adam

I vaguely remember Star Trek TNG when it started... I was about 5 or 6 and
first recall seeing Geordi and his (Visual Instrument and Sensory Organ
Replacement, look Mr. Ayres ;-p). It all looked rather dark and mysterious
then, but of course I came back to it a few years later. I'm not sure if
that's the first sci-fi I ever saw, though.

The Tomorrow People - am I confusing that with a childrens' drama that used
to be on ITV about some kids who had the ability to teleport? That was quite
memorable too, though I'm not sure how old it is.

George-rah, IFISPOOD

Proctor GD wrote:
That's the one!

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ah yes, I think George is remembering the early nineties remake with
Kristian Schmidt who used to be in Neighbours and some other random kids.
And Christopher Lee.

The old series of the Tomorrow People is being re-made (sort of) by
Big Finish Productions, makes of quality Doctor Who Audios. Visit the
website here

http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/Ordering/tomorrowpeople_audio.htm

Adam
Who doesn't work for Big Finish but thinks he should get money from
them anyway for this....

Ah, just checked the IMDb. The one I'm thinking of is the nineties
remake of the one I assume you're all referring to.

George-rah, IFISPOOOOOOD

There was a 90s remake???

I think my earliest Sci-fi memory must have been Flash Gordon - "Flash
ah-ahhhh" - either that or ST:TOS repeats. Don't remember much Doctor Who to
be honest - I remember watching Sylvester McCoy and various repeats, but it
didn't catch my attention much at the time. And of course all the random
kids TV shows that had Sci-fi themes - one in particular with a girl from
the future who had a headband thingy that she could focus her sixth sense
through to move things and heal people and stuff sticks in my mind, although
obviously I can't remember the name of it.

With books - hmmm, The Hobbit had to be fairly early, but surely I read The
Worst Witch before that?! I suppose that fairy tales don't count?
Kathryn.

That is officially not scary and actually kinda cool. Though scary will
probably transmogrigy into meaning cool or fab etc by the year 2020 anyway
as individualism is the way forward. Clearly IFIS is the leading light in
this development of course!
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transmogrigy...that is such a cooool word!!!
wow!!

Charlotte
The Easily Amused official Society Sea Cucumber

Why thank you! I made it up myself.
Another one to add to the new dictionary is: Buggox(copyrighted) -a
conflation of bugger and bollox that I cunningly invented whilst high on
shopping or fresh air etc.
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I guess we should say happy birthday to you as well then.

Happy Birthday.

Andy
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Aye, belated happy birthday and all that

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?Thanx :) I am utterly grapefruit.
My next comment has to be -"where's my pwessent?" then
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make yourself known and I'll buy you a pack of crisps or something. (Hey,
its more than I bought most people here :-))

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Happy Birthday, HUG

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