Train services on Saturday

People may or may not have heard that there has been another derailment,
this time at Virginia Water.
Until further notice, travel out of Egham station will be by bus to Staines
(or wherever in the other direction)
You can forget about train timetables. Nothing will be running as it should.

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Chris Lyth (Clyth@)

A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

Oh Poo. With bells on. Bus replacement services never run to
schedule. I assume, however, that meeting times are unaffected; we'll just
have to pile on the nearest bus instead.

Any thoughts, anybody?

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: Wingrove RJ <R.J.Wingrove@>
To: <chat@>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: Train services on Saturday
I would just like to point out that the odds on the trains out of Staines
running
according to timetable are remote.
Meeting times should (if you are going to try meeting times) have safety
margins
of 3/4 hour. I am not exagerating. I have to use this pooey service every
day.
I am currently at home because when I told my boss in work the time I
would be able to get into work by, he told me just take the day off.
The train I got on today had not even managed to draw level with the college
playing fields in the 5 minutes it was actually moving.
(For full details, I got onto the 9 minutes delayed 8.36 egham Addlestone
train,
after 5 minutes it stopped level with the field that contains 2 horses
Let us call that less than a mile. (Most of us can jog as quickly as the
train must have been going). The train driver announced that he had
mysteriously lost power.
He made regular announcements for the next half hour staing that no-one was
telling him what the problem was. Finally they told him about the
derailment.
They did not however tell him what they were going to do about our train.
There was a train in Egham station so it could not go backwards and the
derailment removed Virginia Waters as an option. After another 3/4 hour, the
guard and driver walked down the length of the train and informed everyone
that we were to get off the train and walk down the track back to Egham
station.
we got off the train and thay sheperded us up to the level crossing at the
bottom
of Prune Hill, (next to the college sports field for those of you who don't
know the
local geography). We were then told that we were to wait there for a bus to
appear to take us to Virginia Waters where we would be able to get another
bus
to our final destinations. It was now 10.45 when this announcement was made.
This was when I borrowed the guard's mobile phone, phoned work and got the
day off. So 2 hours to go to the bottom of Prune Hill from Egham station.
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!)
Walk to London it will be faster.

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Chris Lyth (Clyth@)

Happiness is egg-shaped.

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_991000/991992.stm

Leaves on the line are being blamed for the latest derailment.

A derailment in Surrey has led to further chaos for rail commuters.
It followed a derailment about 100 yards out of Virginia Water station on
Thursday morning which left two passengers suffering from shock related
injuries.

Four carriages on the 0821BST South West train travelling from Weybridge in
Surrey to Staines derailed at approximately 8.40am but, unlike the Hatfield
accident, all the carriages remains upright.
As a result of the latest accident South West trains on the busy London
Waterloo to Reading are effectively cancelled until further notice.

What? How can a train weighing in the region of 100 tons be derailed by leaves? Or am I missing something?

Andy





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----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Wern <andy@>
To: <chat@>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Train services on Saturday
leaves? Or am I missing something?

Precise description from the news a short while back.

Train having adherence problems due to leaf mulch under it's wheels failed
to ran into points which were set to allow an incoming train to reach the
station, and came off the tracks.

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Chris Lyth (Clyth@)

A witty saying proves nothing. -- Voltaire

That's almost as silly as what I heard this morning, an announcement
as I was coming out of Staines station that the Waterloo train was going to
be late because there were cows on ther line!

Charlotte

AHHHH! and I was thinking of coming up today to join IFIS and watch the
film tonight (what is it again). Oh well...

Anybody know if the union is sold out tomorrow?


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"Let me try on your dress, it turns me on when we're a mess...
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nothing@

oh didn't you know? ever since radioactive waste was found on campus a few
years ago, the trees have suddenly started glowing in the dark...

Or am I missing something?

No, it's south west trains who are missing something - a quality service (and
also brains, integrity, sense, open-mindedness etc...)

Love,
Lizz





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From: elizabeth.raikes@
To: chat@
Date sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:07:24 +0100
Subject: Re: Train services on Saturday
Send reply to: chat@
leaves?
(and
Here's an amusing one to consider. New Labour have pledged
=A360bn to modernise the rail network over the next ten years.
Several economic analysists have pointed out that it would only
cost =A36bn over five years to re-nationalise the service.
Yet another example of 'New Labour' being used in replacement of
'Tory.'


Jon
(hoping that he's managed to sort out P-mail following recent
debacles)
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Interesting, but would it solve the problem of rails being knackered. That's
what I'm more interested in. On another interesting note, the new rail
operator for my region has promised to spend millions on replacing the old
trains. I would be excited if that wasnt the exact same promise Connex made
to get the franchise. Same old same old...

Andy
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Anybody know what the train service is like today?

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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Nothing *innocent* wrote:
Last night they were running 1 train an hour and saying it wasn't going to
get much better before Saturday. That and the fact that the bus drivers
weren't even sure where they were meant to be going, doesn't really inspire
me with confidence. *8\

Chris

I've just this minute got ticket 1053, so with 20 odd in line when I left,
if ya wanna go you better get a move on.

From: "Andrew Wren" <andy@>
To: <chat@>
Subject: Re: Train services on Saturday
Date sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:32:13 +0100
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<my earlier comments snipped>
Actually they probably aren't planning to buy any new rolling stock,
there are aparantly 100 brand new trains in a shed somewhere in
the London area waiting to be commisioned/certified for use. It
would appear that operating companies and RailTrack are too afraid
of criticism for removing a service to take the time and resources to
make improvements.
Does this say more about them as lazy and inefficient
administrators, or about us as a culture who will complain if every
little thing is not perfect?


Jon

On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Wingrove RJ wrote:
Maybe we should postpone since the trip was decided/announced with little
notice. Especially as Adam has already pointed out, that most people are
going to be recovering from the halloween ball?

Chris
PS I really _really_ *really* hope you guys have a DVD player for tonight,
because I've gotta get a train home and I doubt I'll be back before 9. *8(

It's a thought. Comment from the committee, anybody?

As an aside, some few of the Gathering people (most notably myself,
Charlotte and James) are going to Green Halloween, which is basically a
costumed pub-crawl for all those people in an LT frame of mind. My plan was
to go to the shopping trip, and then detach ourselves and go to a friends
house to change in to costume. However, what with the problems with trains,
we're going to have to re-think.

Carlos said;
Anybody know if the union is sold out tomorrow?

I have no idea. I sure as hell hope not, on the basis that I haven't
got my ticket yet, and am sitting in the computer center frantically trying
to write a chemistry lab report due in in a few hours.

See you later,
Ron

I bought a ticket numbered 1112 on tuesday morning, so read into that what
you will...
dittoish, writing a placement year report for tomorrow-ish.

They weren't sold out at lunchtime!!!!

Charlotte

That was Lunchtime!

In the magic garden,
Some were singing, some were dancing,
While the midnight moon shone brightly overhead.

hmm, it does seem like a good suggestion to postpone it for perhaps
a week or so.
Sadly, i have been informed by Lizz Raikes that it seems to have
sold out, but i'd check anyway.

Adam
Who hates the way the new email system puts in
(Cummins ARJ) whenever i try to reply and makes the writing all
funny which takes to much bother to change.

Adam;

Go to "Tools" in the Outlook main window.
Select the "Options" menu item
Select the "Reading" tab
Play with the options here. Most importantly, deselect the "Mark my comments
with..." option. Or, if you feel like it, change it instead.
Press "Apply"
Press "OK"

There, that should do it. This is one of those totally silly options that,
by default, should be turned OFF not ON. Write to Mr. Gates (sometimes known
as "God") and complain, but don't expect any reply soon.

Ron

In the magic garden,
Some were singing, some were dancing,
While the midnight moon shone brightly overhead.

Apparently, trains will be going from Staines every half hour from the Windsor
line. So it might be easiest for people to meet at staines instead.



Love,

Lizz

(who will be very late tonight because of this - living in Chertsey and working
in london isn't a good idea).





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grrrrrrr! I found out about this this morning when coming back from
London and getting stuck at Richmond waiting for a Windsor train that went
thorough Staines (the reading ones were all cancelled!).
Why oh why whenever I want to use a train in the past month or so
the trains have completely mucked up?

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bummmulent trains!

Charlotte