Help!
Now it really has gone mad, i have 215 unread e-mails, could i stop
being on the ifis chat thing and get back on it once i've sorted everything
else out???????????????????????????
thanks.
Viv.
Now it really has gone mad, i have 215 unread e-mails, could i stop
being on the ifis chat thing and get back on it once i've sorted everything
else out???????????????????????????
thanks.
Viv.
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From: simon@[SMTP:simon@]
Reply To: chat@
Sent: 14 January 1999 10:17
To: chat@
Subject: Re: RE: new email address, Voyager, sliders etc
In article <40C24C464D6FD21189090000C0F06ACF04AC05@>,
Wren A <A.Wren@> wrote:
Christmas,
knows
be
I haven't seen the eps you are talking about, but in C20 practice
starships
are made to withstand pressure differences by making the hulls strong, not
by making them strong-to-internal-pressures. Given metal as the main
construction material, it is actually quite hard to make something which
is
only strong in one direction.
I do have to ask where the pressure comes from. The pressure that
submarines experience is the effect of density and gravity. Water in a
zero-gravity environment has no internal pressure beyond that on the
surface. Gravity over the normal distances of space would quickly build
water pressures to values that are just silly, of course. Even the thin
film of water on the surface of our planet gets to build pressures almost
beyond our current engineering practices.
Of course the really big problem, even with no gravity, would be
resistance
to movement. Ships and submarines are the slowest of the various forms of
transport, and spacecraft are the fastest. There are good reasons for
that.
Simon
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From: simon@[SMTP:simon@]
Reply To: chat@
Sent: 14 January 1999 10:17
To: chat@
Subject: Re: RE: new email address, Voyager, sliders etc
In article <40C24C464D6FD21189090000C0F06ACF04AC05@>,
Wren A <A.Wren@> wrote:
Voyager. Harrumph. I got to see the much hyped Scorpion over
Given
the cliffhanger, that wasn't bad, but it deteriorated into a Janeway
the cliffhanger, that wasn't bad, but it deteriorated into a Janeway
best (That's why we're still in the wrong quadrant) diaatribe.
Plus if these ships could take down a borg cube in 1 shot, how come
voyager
survived being hit 3 times at least.
Good point. Also consider this: In the fluidic universe, wouldn't therePlus if these ships could take down a borg cube in 1 shot, how come
voyager
survived being hit 3 times at least.
shedloads of pressure on the outside of the hull? Voyager, being a
starship,is presumably designed to keep pressure in, not out. Dump it underwater
andthe damn thing should implode. It's a starship, not a submarine.
By the same token, the ships (subs?) from the fluidic universe would
surelyBy the same token, the ships (subs?) from the fluidic universe would
have exploded due to internal pressure when they enter the vacuum of
space.I haven't seen the eps you are talking about, but in C20 practice
starships
are made to withstand pressure differences by making the hulls strong, not
by making them strong-to-internal-pressures. Given metal as the main
construction material, it is actually quite hard to make something which
is
only strong in one direction.
I do have to ask where the pressure comes from. The pressure that
submarines experience is the effect of density and gravity. Water in a
zero-gravity environment has no internal pressure beyond that on the
surface. Gravity over the normal distances of space would quickly build
water pressures to values that are just silly, of course. Even the thin
film of water on the surface of our planet gets to build pressures almost
beyond our current engineering practices.
Of course the really big problem, even with no gravity, would be
resistance
to movement. Ships and submarines are the slowest of the various forms of
transport, and spacecraft are the fastest. There are good reasons for
that.
Simon
---
"This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind" -Ecclesiastes 4:16
simon@ | Not affiliated to any religion
simon@ | Not affiliated to any politics
H (+44/0)1784 431998 | Not affiliated to any ideology
W (+44/0)1784 434568 (GMT/BST) | What does that make me?
"I have been asked to point out, as if you couldn't guess, that my
rantings
are not the opinions of One Chip Solutions. So now you know, don't
you..?"